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After more than 30 years with CH I am now clear for ten years

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#1 Sun, 30/08/2015 - 21:02
JohnG
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After more than 30 years with CH I am now clear for ten years

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I am delighted to tell you that I have now been clear of CH since September 2005. My last CH episode was 10 years ago.

In another month I will be 60 and I suffered with cluster headaches since my teenage years. Since 2005 I have been living a normal life, eating well and exercising moderately, enjoying some alcohol whenever I feel like it. I want to share my experience in the hope that it helps someone else.

I had all the usual classic symptoms – typically I would be woken from sleep before dawn and suffer 2 or so hours of agony. I used to get cluster episodes once or twice a year around the change of seasons to Spring and Autumn. Drinking alcohol would bring on an attack within minutes during cluster period. Likewise strenuous exercise, or even a hot drink on a cold day if things were really bad. Cluster periods lasted about six to eight weeks. Over the years I tried lots of remedies (Pizotifen, Predisilone, Sumatriptan, Amitriptyline, Imigran, high volume oxygen) with varying levels of relief. I had private medical cover from my employer, so I had lots of tests (e.g. allergy tests, sleep apnea tests at Papworth etc) and tried lots of things. After reading something on the internet I even tried Capsicum (Chilli) in the nostrils – Take it from me “Do not try this at home” it only adds the misery of burning nasal tissue to a CH! Over the years, I was examined by Mr Cozens, Dr Morgan Hughes, Prof Goadsby and others. i.e. I was a classic sufferer, desperate for relief.

As many others have noted, the CHs seem to affect memory, so I kept a CH diary.

I do not know EXACTLY what brought about this pause / end to my suffering: The only significant thing that changed about 10 years ago is my dental regime, and actively trying to stop snoring.

I had changed dentists, and the new one has gradually replaced all my mercury amalgam fillings - I had about 8. She is a stickler for dental hygiene, and got me to start using dental floss religiously (twice a day), and a small pick style toothbrush to ensure the gum line is absolutely clean, as well as my normal toothbrush regime. (I still have all my teeth, in pretty good shape too.)

I also started using a device to alleviate snoring. It's a little plastic gadget like a rugby players gum shield. It took a bit of getting used to. You wear it at night and it holds your lower jaw slightly forwards and prevents snoring (for some people). However, it only covers about the front 4 rows of teeth, so the back molar teeth are held apart. I am sure that I used to grind my back teeth when asleep, and the device has stopped that simply because they are not in contact. There are a few brands of these devices on the market. I use the one called "sleepPro custom" after trying their basic version first to see if it worked for me - which it did. There are Chinese versions of the basic device available for a few pounds on ebay.

So, in summary, ranking the possible relief factors from most likely to least likely, in my own opinion;

No grinding of back teeth while asleep (my hunch is that this was the key)
Much reduced snoring (possibly more oxygen to brain during sleep?)
Fewer bacteria in mouth
Fewer mercury amalgam fillings (doubt this one, but cannot absolutely rule it out)

I sincerely hope this helps someone else, and that they have the same luck as me.
 

Sun, 30/08/2015 - 22:01
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Fantastic news John i pray you continue to be pain free one thing i find interesting in your story is your mention of teeth way back around 1983 to 1984 i had a lot of restoritive work due to my teeth rotting away and ended up with a mouth full of crowns gold back teeth and so on at the end of 1984 i went to live in spain where i had an episode of debilitating head and jaw pain that i put down to my teeth a dentist in spain tried antibiotics which did not help in 1993 after being back in london for 4 years i developed what i now know to be ch and at that time i also thought it was due to teeth had a dentist try cleaning one tooth in particular which did not help much my ch continued every 2 years around spring for 20 years until 1 year around 2 or 3 years ago had 3 cycles during 1 year then no ch since thinkng back that wasnt so long after all the restoritive work fell out and i lost most my back teeth i am still having dentistry work done which will end with me having a full top denture at the moment i have a partial front denture at the top still ch free but  now have chronic migraine and that same single tooth still gives me trouble and tastes metallic

AnitasPaul

Sun, 30/08/2015 - 23:45
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Hmm...all very interesting. I can imagine all CHrs rushing out for floss and snoring aids! Thank you so much for taking the time to set that all out John, and I second what Paul says, I pray you continue to be pain free. It is so good to hear that it is possible for this hideous thing to actually stop.

Harriet

Mon, 31/08/2015 - 00:03
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As my bloating began at the end of that 1993 episode and after reading Johns trouble with teeth grinding i do wonder if some suspected ch is more some kind of trigarminal reffered pain from swallowing amalgam fillings ie mecury poisoning may explain my bloating after a good brush of my teeth i am usually pf gonna ask my dentist to remove that troublesome lower tooth with the metallic taste see if it makes a difference

AnitasPaul

Tue, 01/09/2015 - 05:44
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It has been said we can expect long periods of remission above the age of 60: You may have attained this grace early.

Wed, 02/09/2015 - 00:42
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all the best to you john, and make the most of your pain free life, hi phil you mean ive got a possible porole from this life sentance?? thats great news!! i could be a pain free old fart. well ch wise, i would like to hear from any ex chers to hear there story of hope for others, d

Thu, 01/10/2015 - 13:54 (Reply to #6)
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Good luck.

I always thought that CH was probably a bit like really bad toothache - but I have never had a tooth removed for toothache so (luckily) I don't know.

In my family the molar roots are really very, very long, and the pain seemed to be emanating from where I IMAGINED the roots ended - up behind my eye somewhere!

 

Hope it works if you have that tooth sorted out ...

Thu, 01/10/2015 - 16:59
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do many get pain in the roots of the teeth in upper jaw related to clusters, I get it terrible some evenings only paracetamol stops it.

Fri, 02/10/2015 - 13:48
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Interesting! have just had SUNCT diagnosed at King's (Dental School) by Prof. Goadsby. I developed this after dental implant treatment (I am really not a good advert for that!!) Extensive research has dug up the following on all things dental/neuropathic: AO (what I was originally 'diagnosed' with) http://www.painweek.org/education_posts/atypical-odontalgia-unmasking-th... Dental treatment for neuropathic pain patients http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2768555/ Neuropathic pain (very technical but interesting nonetheless) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2768555/ Best wishes to you all. L

Sat, 03/10/2015 - 08:40
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i was given a night guard by the dentist, this stopped it for a while but its back again with vengence, had it all day yestrerday, 

Sat, 03/10/2015 - 15:12
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I read that as neuropathetic pain for some reason Smile

AnitasPaul

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